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This is war against the populism and call for the media to restore trust in control in her mactaggart lecture.

Brian commentator Jake Hunter about the festival highlights with brand new shows coming to our telescreens, that's all come out the addition of the podcast Jake hunter from the X here at the Edinburgh TV festival the winners of the Edinburgh TV festival awards in just a moment.

News position across public broadcasting Jake earlier, should we be giving public broadcasters more of a break then we happen what to do with the session was kind of set the time for some of the rest of some of these issues, can I donate to the last couple of days and that's a surprise with the big existential questions hanging over their heads.

Yeah, the licence being scrapped in Channel 4 privatised and then the industry like abandoning TV and diversity which hearing loss about getting this week, so we tried to use and we had 6 people on the panel which is quite a lot of people trying to get through opinions as possible.

I think it's really interesting that some of these big questions.

I've actually been not a terrible thing that helped sharpen up at the broadcast think about their remit and the way that they are conditioning programs that can only be a good thing that the success of the stream is up to now has Focus the Lions are the TV to get the house in order now probably the point where the streamers again for their own slight.

What is a really interesting.

I think is having the different reactions by the different streaming Amazon Prime video the last half a million over the last water with a very much like staying with the same commitment.

We are still making loads of Originals they are releasing a very expensive slates.

Publicly released here.

They're trying to be like no outside world doesn't really reflects where we are speak to Netflix and that sort of thing like yeah.

This is been a bit of a shocker.

We had to make some difficult choices, but at the same time still be like know we're still going to be doing a massive contents late.

Will there be releasing in loads of George's we still committed to having the best Canon still committed to doing high-end drama or very expensive shows if it suits is and I think it really makes you wonder what the long-term plans in this may be like they are making Changes but they're not happy to make a public yet.

It's quite hard to read the best of times and other plans and I think it's trying to sort of the cost of living is only get worse only going to get worse and people are also going to be thinking so much harder about the subscription services that they subscribe to because at the end of the day.

They're not essential TV's not essential because you've got some streaming services by the end of the day if people feel that they can't afford to look at back of the TV used but still watch loads of programmes 12994 Netflix Amazon app that this is popping up from Amazon in 3D but also add versions of Netflix on the way to Chesham about yeah.

I think they're talking about it.

Cost of living changes and shows that been commissioned a year ago on certain budgets now.

They're finding the shipping Gear international costs five times as much money as I used to and can they actually hit their budgets can make it to the end of the end of the cereal challenge broadcasters in streamers?

Pressure themselves with cash about having to maybe top up the funding of some service yeah, yeah, and I think it's looking forward quite weird Waters aren't we feel like it's going to be really interesting because everyone's trying to have a good one.

Try that look like they know where the next year is heading and I think I don't really know where the next is heading but at the moment.

I'm not even halfway there by the battery haven't got a prime minister.

Sort of essentially by everyone's going to trade in Walthamstow to be working out where we going I feel when it turns off the consequences of the cost of living will have a massive implication and I like it's going to be a challenging year.

Sort of seen as a foregone conclusion that channel 4 is going to be privatised.

Do you think that the discussion this week is there is an assumption that supposed to complete it is really I don't know whether that's because they've refused to engage or festival has made a conscious effort to just make it about the industry, but the two are inseparable.

You know the Fate of the industry is in the hands of politicians and I think it's good to see Nadine dorries here at least milling around a bit of it.

Play message from have a pretty good guess and I'm sure there if you are senior members of the industry that they'll tell you they making preparations for a list Trust government and from what we have seen so far that position on the big issues like the BBC and Channel 4 does not seem to diverge too much for Boris Johnson a lot of trouble this winter and so will some of them all knotty culture war issues with the Channel 4 privatisation a long grass images with cost of living.

Because you're talking to your base, but when you went to the office and you have the realities of governing and not just governing in gentle Waters we are we are based or does privatisation of Channel 4 matter in the middle of that storm I think a lot of people in this you would say absolutely not is it a vote winner? I don't think there's any chance of that and will it suck I find a with with with the general public like trying to explain Channel 4 and privatisation understand find it really like in the back of legs and realise that channel 4 is and it isn't private eyes and like the unique positioning itself as soon as I get confused when I say as a easy Tory target to have a go at it may be beyond tutorial hardcore base who would be aware of them probably don't understand I don't care.

Channel 4 stand up and start banging on about Channel 4 the public going to go windy talking about the back my gas prices for grand.

I think that's perfect for those discussions.

What are the big things that happened at the end of the first day was Emily maitlis is mactaggart lecture we are and almost basic than me between the actions of those in power and the public so physically finally most excitingly the Challenge for us.

I think is how we live up to that responsibility in a way that is both fair and robust.

What did you make a Emily speech Scott I think it was.

Very well thought through I think that she had a lot of good she like for the receipts then she a lot of examples a lot of cases.

I feel that she knew exactly what she was going to do as well.

I think she knew the like the fact that the next day the BBC going to be having a chat.

I think we're on our minds and also I feel that she is also a person.

I'm moving to go but she's got her own podcast she's now got a feeling that she could now has the responsibilities and to take the shackles off of the BBC this is how we just talk about these issues.

I guess the questions.

Will it make a difference not entirely sure but also it is really interesting in terms of like these issues around impartiality have been going around for a long long time and I think like what you said to me was a lot of issues.

He was saying in regards to kind of you can end up having a situation and which you give a

The populists in people who do not deserve to have a platform in the needs of impartiality to me does not seem like I'm trying to news Tim Davies plan is to have been passed the MOT checks across all call Kathleen to make sure all voices are being heard and I feel like that.

Maybe she was talking specifically in journalism news Gathering in use it makes you wonder like would there be situations which somebody would therefore be complaining because a topic on a documentary is not talking about this thing that they've all adamant about when I think most documentaries even if they are on Impossible forecast.

Do you have a slight editorial agenda? But you can't always have every single person's point of view because at the end of day.

That's all what documentaries are there for and I think they'd be the issues.

I can start to the BBC like partiality becoming like this never-ending situation with nobody is happy to myself.

I like creating more potential problems and it's solving at least for now.

That's my taken it.

The reports on memory speech yesterday from all sides spiked Through The Spectator kind of calling saying that she wants the BBC to just be at the home for remainers exactly what she was saying this description actually witches from the popular site.

It's constantly refraining the issue is always put broadcasters on the back foot.

They can't win the response kind of underline some of the points that she was making really right.

She was really careful in the way that she broke some of these issues.

He raised a lot of it through questions rather than making statements which is a journalistic way of doing the key thing that really stood out to me is her questioning of due impartiality and there is a distinction there.

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Providing appropriate way to different balancing views evenly, you might hear their views occasionally but you wouldn't you would you wouldn't say that they have an equal platform with someone who believes the world around.

I mean David Jordan is the director of editorial policy the BBC is use that as an example watch.

What are we getting during partial to write on issues like brexit and and from what you were saying really between the lines is clear that 10.

She believes the beauty is getting that balance wrong and is offering and is often too much weight giving too much bigger platform 2 views that don't necessarily warranty it and the example that she gave about.

They found it easy to find a commonest coronavirus who spoke about the downsides of brexit, but they would take about 5 hours to find someone to expose the benefits and but the way it's presented to audiences is it doesn't really matter because they have the same platform.

They are sharing their time and they they are equals but really behind the scenes that they haven't gone through an equal journalistic process to arrive at the outcome, but the problem is 50 to 48% of the country in the vote and all of the Conservative Party Party and power a saying it's absolutely fine.

She bumps it's going to be ok.

You are being patriotic and that's the challenge.

Isn't it? How does a broadcaster even?

When they believe they're being truthful.

I means that they won't be neutral that I think the phrase to use was that the broadcasters going into an automatic Crouch Crouch position when the bad side of brexit and they're not properly reporting that their position of the grief that any discussion of it as it's sort of easier not to talk about it or to do in a Subway cos just all the crap that comes with it and that and that's bad because it stop stop stop some from you guys when you're writing a story that you know people going to be unhappy about Scott do you think about the backlash and you try to do pre bottle on the backlash I mean.

I mean it's because because I'm going as TV criticism is hard for me to feel weak in terms of trying to guess what the reaction to anything.

I would say is I mean there's been a few situations where I've met produces or couple of people.

I love you like yeah, you really have you have to be to quite quite often taken that sort of sense.

I think it is waiting away because you know I my role is not really being impartial old is if I'm not giving an opinion then why is anyone Karen like at the end of the day like? I'm just trying to share my own view.

Latest news on the Isle of Wight it absolutely love it when you come over and say you are wrong because of ABCD and a great but yeah, I would argue that I well I hope I approach my journey with impartiality.

I think the whole point of journalism.

Is that you try and speak to his many different people as possible and particularly when your reporting on this so you want to get different the two sides of the story and you want to reflect that in the piece of you.

Write and follow the line or do you follow a line that you think your audience are interested in or do you just write what you want right? I'm not pressure to write stories in a particular way.

And therefore proceeding with an open mind.

Get out of the end of the week Tuesday I think the bank holiday Monday and I mentioned that they are keen to show some of their working in that podcast she has a room for trying to do daily me in a different way.

I mean I think I just think of course it's edited the created also with dinos off and he is the genius behind brexit cast newscast Anika's now with their newsagents podcast it's now being a direct rival.

I thought I mean if I was in podcasting you listen to One listens to the other is that the same case of listen to the radio in a certain thing but I think they realise if they try to go in to recreate and used.cars.for LBC people will be going well.

Why are you doing this again for a different forecaster what I like?

Really about John and Emily on so people from Americas actually is how when they were explaining a lot of the US election and they do it in a base of political sort of wonky able to really break apart the the wise and I think that's a Sensibility is not really saying what is happening, but maybe explaining why things are happening now of course.

That's what you do.

That's what we all do is try to explain that he was happening but also why things are happening.

I get it really makes you wonder like how were they going to know what they're going to be able to reveal a analyst so I would say so true.

Explanation yeah, you look at true Crime you look at dramatisations real life events something has happened and if that's there if that's a mission to to expose the y&t lithica and back on process a little bit.

I'm sure the podcast will do well and they were very listenable asked about their thoughts on the festival and the McTaggart only had to say my name is not Darryl I'm the form of BBC World first Crossfire and founder of production company Media today.

Yeah, Graham is so much.

Where do you get to select for the climate change one was fantastic and you need to start having a debate about that and it's

Starting something Emily's incredible McTaggart exposure was hot and then a voice that we need so desperately you know that we're operating under brexit in a hole in the hole in the BBC impartiality and then I hosted a session on the war in Ukraine which is great because he has to Ramsey and he's just an absolute legend and he returned from Ukraine after being infected with this after coming under attack and bullets thankfully recovering from the attack to be able to be here today and tell us the story now.

You know how is your mother conflict saying things going to amazing looking forward to the rest of people talking about the

Which was the session she was sharing this now and they can they will go where where they feel that they will be supported and where are nice people to work for in my experience freelancers will take a job that taps doesn't quite as much if they truly believe in both the project and the company and I really want to work somewhere.

It isn't all about money it obviously helps with the cost of living crisis.

You know it's very top you know people really have to respect to rate their their workplace festival it so much that is so good to be back at the festival to see so many people that you've not seen for so long and just you know there's catch up and then just a listen to the institution about all the brickwork.

That's happening.

Think about the things that we need to be doing better at so yeah, it's a really great to be back in Edinburgh and back in the space again.

That's that's yeah.

It's great to talk about what's coming up over next 12-months.

I thought the session with mo Gilligan was really interesting and think about that internationally what that looks like an and how ideas translate across you know the Atlantic and how tall and actually can be used for UK perspective in the USA what that means so I thought I was going to say and I love no I think it's brilliant.

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It's the world's funniest musical Mamma Mia at the Novello Theatre Edinburgh TV festival special still got Scott and Jake here with me what things have you heard that maybe have been picked up on what do you think? It's been secret stories.

I would say this is all been about the reboots chat and no one was expecting reboots to be the topic of conversation Channel 4 who are boys had weather for many years vs.

ITV who have cost and now having it with Kevin lygo Kevin I go talking at the reason why the bringing back brother is because love Island doing well.

It's a

Tudor entertainment show outdoor shops of birdsong whilst people done babe my TV doing nothing else today's today's that but then also like you know it's been a bit of a week, but not weird but is a backlash to affect the level of reboots and of course you know within cat saying so negative Big Brother but also negative things about now the confirms news of Gladiators coming back.

I think he said something about with you there joke about like microwaving old meals are being microwave reheated wake of technically reboot.

When is purely because people in the door? It's so much harder to launch particular Saturday night former the BBC have tried and failed quite a few various TV shows over the years.

It is also on scripted and on TV because they are the ones I think so have an appeal because people like watching them together and I think the Gladiators won't be a show that I think they would be on iPlayer I think they'll be hoping that many people actually tune in live and that's an advantage.

They have against streamers Unscripted you seen I feel loads of Unscripted formats being thrown around.

Shows the failed to get a captive audience I think because there isn't the 9 p.m.

Or watching it together feeling on ITV2 we said trying to replicate the last 80 months but not a lot of bad seen Kevin I go and Charlotte Moore with perspective is going well actually nav shows will give us a bit of a different advantage compared to the shows that was sitting in your session with BBC commissioner UK formats yeah come around the world.

We have got I'm a Celebrity rather than survival.

Clear about gladiators with survivor they haven't been so for coming about it and I feel was a bit of a dance to go and try to say I think they replying to announce it.

I really what I was told.

I don't know I don't know whether someone said I don't know someone must have said the Optics of announcing gladiators and survivor in one session great for the BBC so I wonder whether they backed off survivor actually, but I heard that they were planning to announce this Commission was at work because of these shows they are better in our heads because of the Nostalgia that it creates rather than actually being good now in downturns people do turn to nostalgic.

Directions to we are we're not going to afford to go out for heater homes turn on the telly the warm glow from the Plasma chat on other even though you prepare us for this special ITV commissioning and when you've been paying attention here at the TV festival have things been commissioned.

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I don't know that I cannot remember Amazon incorrect history.

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1 of 12 ordinary Germans is Jackie Weaver that way because the whole show is trying to prove that it's really hard being p.m.

And set them through their paces know all of this stuff, but quite a long time really anyway.

Sorry about the reporter who brought down Royal celebrities and athletes by posing as the fake Sheikh Jake videos.

How about the fake Sheikh yes, they will hear about that you have to show a joint international co-production for song Big Brother exact in the Big Brother house.

Well.

It was a lot of fun watching a lot of fun here this year was about the repair shop with Judi Dench

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